Stephen Colbert Goes To Art Therapy


YOU KNOW, FOLKS, IT FEELS LIKE
ALL I DO ON THIS SHOW IS TALK ABOUT PEOPLE IN THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION. BUT THAT IS NOT TRUE. SOMETIMES, I TALK ABOUT PEOPLE
ASSOCIATED WITH THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. FOR INSTANCE, KAREN PENCE. AS THE WIFE OF THE VICE
PRESIDENT, SHE IS OUR COUNTRY’S SECOND LADY– NOT TO BE CONFUSED
WITH THE PRESIDENT’S SECOND LADY, STORMY DANIELS. ( LAUGHTER )
AND IN HER ROLE AS SECOND LADY, KAREN PENCE HAS CHOSEN TO
CHAMPION THE CAUSE OF ART THERAPY, WHICH IS MENTAL HEALTH
THERAPY USING ART MATERIALS. IT MAKES SENSE. WE ALL KNOW ARTISTS ARE THE
EPITOME OF MENTAL HEALTH. I MEAN, VAN GOGH WAS SO
COMFORTABLE IN HIS SKIN THAT HE DECIDED TO CUT OFF SOME OF IT
AND GIVE IT AWAY. WELL, EVER SINCE THE ELECTION,
I’VE FELT LIKE I COULD USE A BIT OF THERAPY. SO TO FIND OUT MORE, I SAT DOWN
WITH LICENSED ART THERAPIST RACHEL BRANDOFF BECAUSE, UNLIKE
MIKE PENCE, I’M ALLOWED TO BE IN A ROOM ALONE WITH A WOMAN. JIM?>>Stephen: WHAT IS ART THERAPY?>>ART THERAPY IS A MENTAL
HEALTH PROFESSION. WE EMPLOY THE CREATIVE PROCESS
AS A WAY OF HELPING PEOPLE WORK THROUGH ISSUES, INCREASE
SELF-AWARENESS, HELP THEM TO ACHIEVE WHATEVER GOALS THAT
THEY’RE SEEKING TO WORK ON IN THERAPY.>>Stephen: IN WHAT WAYS DOES
ART THERAPY HELP AN INDIVIDUAL WHO PRESENTLY, SAY, CAN’T SLEEP
BECAUSE HE OR SHE IS HAUNTED BY THE IDEA THAT A MYRIAD OF LONG-
ESTABLISHED NORMS HAVE BEEN FLOUTED BY PEOPLE IN POWER, AND
THEY ARE SLOWLY CHIPPING AWAY AT WHAT WE BELIEVE ARE THE
STANDARDS OF MORALS AND ETHICS, NOT ONLY IN OUR GOVERNMENT, BUT
IN OUR DAILY LIVES, TO SUCH A DEGREE THAT THERE’S A WOUND ON
THE PSYCHE AND THE SOUL ON AMERICA IN WHICH WE MAY NEVER
RECOVER? ( LAUGHTER )
HOW WOULD YOU– HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS SOMETHING LIKE THAT?>>I MIGHT ASK A CLIENT TO DRAW
A PICTURE OF HOW THEY’RE FEELING TODAY. I MIGHT ASK A CLIENT TO CREATE A
PICTURE OF A BRIDGE AND PUT THEMSELVES SOMEWHERE ON IT. ( LAUGHTER )
>>CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE YOU ARE ON THIS BRIDGE?>>Stephen: I USED TO BE ON THE
BRIDGE. I JUMPED OFF THE BRIDGE. ( LAUGHTER )
>>SO YOU’RE NO LONGER ON THE BRIDGE?>>Stephen: NO LONGER ON THE
BRIDGE. I WAS ON THE BRIDGE FOR A WHILE,
AND THEN I THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND I THOUGHT, (BLEEP).>>WELL THAT WASN’T PART OF THE
INSTRUCTION.>>Stephen: NO, IT WASN’T, BUT
YOU KNOW WHAT? I WENT WITH MY FEELINGS RATHER
THAN WHAT YOU THINK IS RIGHT.>>OKAY, GOOD, CREATIVE LICENSE.>>Stephen: SECOND LADY KAREN
PENCE HAS CLAIMED ART THERAPY AS HER AREA OF FOCUS. DO YOU THINK THAT SHE’LL DO JUST
AS GOOD OF A JOB AT CHAMPIONING ART THERAPY AS MELANIA HAS AT
CHAMPIONING ANTI-CYBER BULLYING?>>A VERY LARGE CONTINGENT OF
ART THERAPISTS ARE VERY ANGRY THAT SHE HAS APPOINTED HERSELF
AS SPOKESPERSON FOR THE FIELD.>>Stephen: YEAH. IS SHE, HERSELF, AN ART
THERAPIST?>>SHE IS NOT. SHE IS AN ART EDUCATOR, AND SHE
IS AN ARTIST.>>Stephen: HAVE YOU SEEN HER
STUFF?>>I’VE SEEN SOME OF IT ONLINE.>>Stephen: DO YOU LIKE IT? DO YOU LIKE IT?>>SHE’S TECHNICALLY VERY
PROFICIENT.>>Stephen: WOW, THAT IS DAMNING
WITH FAINT PRAISE. “HOW DID YOU LIKE YOUR MEAL?”
TECHNICALLY, THIS IS FOOD.” DO YOU THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP
HIMSELF MIGHT BENEFIT FROM SOME ART THERAPY?>>I THINK HE COULD ABSOLUTELY
BENEFIT FROM THERAPY. ALTHOUGH, THERE IS A LIMIT TO
HOW MUCH YOU COULD DO THAT WITH SOMEBODY WHO’S NOT WILLING TO BE
SELF-REFLECTIVE.>>Stephen: NOT WILLING TO LOOK
AT THEMSELVES.>>YEAH.>>Stephen: DO YOU THINK THAT’S
WHY HE ALWAYS WEARS MAKEUP, BECAUSE HE ACTUALLY DOESN’T WANT
TO SEE HIS OWN FACE? IS THAT A FORM OF ART THE WAY HE
PAINTS HIS FACE EVERYDAY?>>I’M GUESSING HE HAS SOMEBODY
ELSE DO IT, AND THAT PERSON IS PROBABLY AN ARTIST.>>Stephen: OR BLIND. BECAUSE IT’S NOT SPREAD VERY
EVENLY. MMMM, THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT’S
MAKEUP DONE BY SENSE OF SOUND. ( LAUGHTER )
>>CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THIS PICTURE IS ABOUT?>>Stephen: THIS IS ME IN MY
HAPPY PLACE. ( LAUGHTER )
THIS IS ME JUST CALMING DOWN AT THE END OF THE DAY. THIS ONE’S CALLED, “NOT NOW. DADDY’S DRINKING.”>>IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU
FEEL ALL THE TIME?>>Stephen: YES, YES. WELL, ONLY WHEN I’M DRINKING.>>OKAY.>>Stephen: SO, YES, ALL THE
TIME. LET ME TRY– LET ME TRY THAT
AGAIN, OKAY?>>IS THIS A PICTURE OF YOU?>>Stephen: THIS IS ME. THIS IS WHEN I’M FEELING COOL. ( LAUGHTER )
IS BOB ROSS AN ART THERAPIST? BECAUSE WATCHING HIM IS
INCREDIBLY RELAXING.>>BOB ROSS IS DEAD. ( LAUGHTER )
BUT, NO, HE WAS NOT AN ART THERAPIST.>>Stephen: HOLD ON, HOLD ON
( LAUGHTER ) DID YOU GUYS KNOW THAT? DID YOU KNOW THAT BOB ROSS IS
DEAD? I JUST WATCHED HIM LAST NIGHT. ( LAUGHTER )
>>HE IS VERY ENTERTAINING.>>Stephen: HOW DID HE DIE? WAS IT MURDER?>>I’M NOT SURE, ACTUALLY.>>Stephen: YOU DON’T KNOW.>>NO, I DO NOT KNOW.>>Stephen: SO IT COULD BE
MURDER.>>THAT’S ONE POSSIBILITY.>>Stephen: DO YOU 18 BRING UP
THE KATH DEATH OF PEOPLE’S HEROE YOUR THERAPY?>>NO, BUT I DON’T AVOID IT,
EITHER.>>Stephen: WHAT’S THE GOAL OF
ART THERAPY?>>ART IS A WAY OF CONNECTING TO
OUR UNCONSCIOUS. WE CAN MANIFEST THINGS IN ART
THAT WE SOMETIMES ARE NOT EVEN AWARE ARE THERE.>>Stephen: I DON’T REMEMBER
MAKING THIS ONE. BUT I EVIDENTLY GOT UP IN THE
MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND JUST PUT ALL THESE SYMBOLS ON THE WALL IN
OUR LIVING ROOM. AND THE NEXT MORNING I GOT UP,
AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT ANY OF IT MEANS, BUT MY CAT IS MISSING.>>HOW DO YOU FEEL WHEN LOOK AT
THOSE SYMBOLS NOW?>>Stephen: UHHH, MYSTIFIED. I HEAR A VOICE CALLING FROM
BEYOND THE WALL AND TELLING ME NOW IS THE TIME AND BLOOD IS THE
KEY. AND I DON’T KNOW WHAT THAT
MEANS. ( LAUGHTER )
>>WHAT DOES THAT VOICE SOUND LIKE? IS IT A FAMILIAR VOICE?>>Stephen: IF A CAT WERE A
HUMAN, LIKE, “NOW IS THE TIME. BLOOD IS THE KEY. STEPHEN, PROTECT YOURSELF.” ( LAUGHTER )
IF COPS CAME TO YOU AND SAID, “WE WANT TO SEE HIS ART,” COULD
YOU DENY THEM MY ART? IS THERE A CONFIDENTIALITY HERE?>>ABSOLUTELY.>>Stephen: SO IF A COPY SAID,
“WE WANT TO SEE THE PICTURE OF HIS ART, OKAY, BECAUSE ALL THE
CATS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE MISSING,” WOULD YOU HAVE TO SHOW
THEM MY ART, OR WOULD YOU SAY, “NO, THAT’S COVERED UNDER, YOU
KNOW, ARTIST/THERAPIST CONFIDENTIALITY.”>>WELL, THAT’S A LIMIT TO
CONFIDENTIALITY. IF I HAD A REASON TO BELIEVE
THAT YOU WERE TO HARM YOURSELF OR ANOTHER PERSON, THEN I WOULD
HAVE TO REPORT IT.>>Stephen: SO YOU’RE LIKE ALL
THE OTHERS?>>ALL THE OTHER THERAPISTS THAT
WOULD ALSO HAVE TO REPORT IT?>>Stephen: NO, ALL THE ONES
WHO’VE BETRAYED ME. OUR HOUR WAS UP, AND IT WAS TIME
FOR MY DIAGNOSIS. SHOOT FROM THE HIP, DON’T THINK. WHAT’S MY MENTAL PROBLEM?>>I THINK THAT YOU’RE DEALING
WITH A LOT OF ADJUSTMENT ISSUES IN TERMS OF YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT
THE GOVERNMENT AND THE ELECTION, THE WAY OUR COUNTRY IS HEADED
RIGHT NOW.>>Stephen: I DON’T KNOW WHAT
SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT. I AM PERFECTLY ADJUSTED AND IN
NO WAY OBSESSED. GOOD LUCK, KAREN PENCE. ART THERAPY IS STUPID. ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
>>Stephen: OKAY, FOR THE RECORD– FOR THE RECORD, FOR THE
RECORD, I LOVE MY CAT. ALSO, ART THERAPY IS NOT STUPID. I WAS JUST WORKING THROUGH SOME
ISSUES. IN FACT, WE’RE GOING TO AUCTION
OFF THE ARTWORK THAT I MADE THAT DAY. AND THE PROCEEDS WILL GO TO THE
AMERICAN ART THERAPY ASSOCIATION, OR TO HIRE A
DETECTIVE TO INVESTIGATE BOB ROSS’ MURDER. GO TO ColbertLateShow.com FOR
DETAILS.

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