HomeArticlesThe Art of Overanalyzing Movies The Art of Overanalyzing Movies By Frank Lundy September 17, 2019 Articles, Blog 100 Comments Tags:and, brokeback mountain, brokeback mountain analysis, kubrick interview, movie analysis, over analyzing video essay, overanalysing video essay, stanley kubrick, stanley kubrick behind the scenes, that, the, the shining, the shining analysis, the shining meaning, video essay the shining Related Posts How to Draw Animals | Doodle with me! Photoshop Tutorial: FACE PAINT! How to Paint Graphics onto a Face. Kokomo Alley Art About Author admin 100 Comments Saul Statman July 25, 2019 Tell this to an Undertale fan. Reply WillDaBeast 850 July 25, 2019 Long comment incoming: In the novel “A Hitchhiker’s Guide To The Galaxy,” an extremely intelligent computer is built. A scientist asks the computer what the Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything is. The computer prints out a response. On the sheet of paper is printed the number 42. 42 is the Answer to Life, The Universe, And Everything. The author made this decision as a joke, and nothing more, but readers studied and studied, stating that for a rainbow to form, light must pass through water at an angle of 42 degrees. I’m sure you know the Google Easter Egg: type “the answer to life the universe and everything” in Google search, and it will display the number 42 on the calculator. Reply Word Of Wrestling July 25, 2019 Death of the author Reply Tiana Tampico July 25, 2019 I love the video. I felt bad that I used to be so heavily on the other side of analysis. I used to think the author's word always triumphed over outside interpretation, then I started playing pen and paper role-playing games. Looking at each others characters we could all see how our characters unconsciously mirrored their ourselves. We could see each other demons, hang ups and biases in our characters and stories. (Example: One friend who said he loved his terrifyingly controlling parents but made only characters that hated their parents and had to escape them). I realized some authors I read could have the same thing in their writing, they to can be prone to playing out inner stories in their work and not realized it while readers might. We are our perspective so intimately it can be totally invisible to us. Reply Mr Dynamo July 26, 2019 MatPat would like to know your location Reply Főfasírozó July 26, 2019 Well, you can't overanalyze a Kubrick movie. Reply SkinnySnorlax July 26, 2019 More and more, I have been focusing on authorial intent ONLY if the author of a work is doing so competently. Now, watching Kubrick films, I will know to focus more on the emotions that he skillfully brings up, and have that become the meaning of the work. Whether Tommy Wiseau intended for The Room to be a serious film, it IS a comedy. One of the reasons that I don't push for death of the author when looking at serious, well made work, is because it almost boils down to fanfic. If a work inspires you to think of new themes, meanings, and symbols, good! Make something with it. But that doesn't believe they belong in the author's work. Reply Flüster Text July 26, 2019 In german class i tell pupils every interpretation is right as long as they provide a checkable, an immanent truth of the text, which the class and me are able to comprehend while reading the text again. Reply Ya Boi July 26, 2019 Anyone else unable to see a face in those clouds Reply Sydney Stroud July 26, 2019 Reading way too much into things with own projections of the said source material 😉 Reply izaiaz12 July 26, 2019 4:54 I have the same exact blue pen, this is the happiest day of my life. Reply Eric Daniel July 27, 2019 My ninth grade English teacher taught me in 1992 that if it's explicable, it may well be intentional. Even if the director or author or composer didn't specifically intend a certain meaning doesn't mean it isn't there. Reply This is Not The Algorithm July 27, 2019 Art, music and ALL forms of creativity are true freedom. An individual or group passionate process then transcends time and space to connect with the recipient becomming part of their life. Creativity is the only thing so malleable it becomes a part of after the release of.#ThIsIsNoTThEaLgOrItHiM Reply Cyber Wasp July 27, 2019 Yeah, my philosophy teacher was guilty of overanalyzing. She once had shown in class a painting of Socrates drinking poison when he was sentenced to death. The painting was set in an underground dungeon so there were stairs that were leading up. However, she told us that this wasn't what the painter intended with the stairs, but he wanted to symbolize that Socrates will ascend to a higher plane of existence, above the mortal man (there were guards near the stairs). Also, there was a window-like structure in the painting, which the teacher interpreted as "Socrates shining his wisdom to people". When I told her that the painter just wanted to paint a famous historical moment, she told me "that's what a narrow-minded person would think, not a true philosopher". Gosh, I really cannot stand philosophy. Reply Eriamjh 1138 July 27, 2019 When the question is “what did the director/author mean by…” it MUST be backed up by documentation that they actually meant it. Otherwise it’s one’s OWN interpretation. There’s a big difference. Reply Marvin July 27, 2019 Overanalyzing 2001: A Space Odyssey and coming up with pretty much bizarre interpretations, is a Rob Ager thing. Reply Robishow July 28, 2019 What’s that sample in the beginning? Reply Psychedelic Anxiety July 28, 2019 Can someone please list all the movies in this video? Reply 9000ck July 28, 2019 It is possible that the creator is not fully aware of the meaning of a text. Much in the same way individuals do not fully understand why they think, feel or act as they do. Hence the usefulness of psychoanalytic approaches to film. Reply jay July 28, 2019 That opening quote is a low IQ take. Checkov's curtains bruh Reply Aeimos July 28, 2019 The fear white people had in the 1930's of black people was based on an honest assessment of black people as a class. See, for example, how black and brown people are when given free reign by political correctness to say how they really feel about white people. "Demons", "Nazis", colonists". The dehumanization is directed at all white people as a class, never only individuals. See, also, South Africa. White farming families are targeted for the most brutal and evil tortures. Farming families who have done nothing other than farm the land and feed South Africa their whole lives. White people have every reason to fear their predators and to want to keep them at bay. Reply Prosthetic Quilt July 28, 2019 So English class was a waste of time? Reply Anime Tomboy Enthusiast July 28, 2019 I've been writing movie scripts for about two years now. A lot of the time, I think about hidden meanings, but mostly, I just write whatever feels right. Reply Anime Tomboy Enthusiast July 28, 2019 Some songwriter: Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer used his glowing nose to guide Santa through fog and save Christmas. "Deep" thinkers: This is a song about how you're only liked if you're useful. It's communist propaganda. Reply scuzzlebutt July 30, 2019 So David Lynch is basically the anti-JK Rowling. Nice Reply random July 30, 2019 What's the name of the movie in 4:45? Reply Paul Mertens July 30, 2019 Dutch author Harry Mulisch was always very accepting of and interested in his readers' interpretations, admitting that readers would discover meaning that might have slipped in unconsciously, and viewing these interpretations as part of the artistic process. Reply TheFuturist July 30, 2019 'Objective' meaning isn't meaning that was intended by a creator. In fact, as far as art is concerned, we can't really have 'objective' meaning, and the closest we can get is agreements about meanings, such as 'blue means sadness' (it would only be objective if blue couldn't possibly mean something else, regardless of who's watching). It's misleading to use the subjective/objective distinction, and it's much more useful to think about why someone is interpreting in the way they are (because all interpretation is partly social and partly psychological; it's like the former is being fused with the latter). A creator can't tell us what their work means; they can only tell us what they were trying to do when they created it. An author can't tell us that a certain character represents (e.g.) black people in America, and can only say that they were trying to convey something (though they might have been trying to convey the same thing that we're finding, this is still a coincidence, as we could easily interpret it in other ways, and they could be lying). All that being said, while we can't really disagree about what a work of art means, we can point out when someone seems to be stretching things a bit too far. If I claimed that Robocop represents the struggle between Freudian and Jungian psychoanalytic thought, I'd have to do a lot of work to show you how I've been led to think that, and unless I do a good job of explaining it you'd think I'm just making it up to sound clever (and you'd probably be right!). Reply Paije Peri July 31, 2019 If you create something and never show another living soul then it means whatever you created it to mean. But the moment you share art, your creation isn’t solely yours anymore. It becomes open to the interpretation of the viewer. As a creator your function is to connect your art with other people. Reply Vince The Prince July 31, 2019 2:38 what's Dave Chappelle doing on the right? Reply Rickard Zingmark July 31, 2019 When a coffee cup appears in a scene there is a big chance that the coffee cup is just a coffee cup. Reply Baruch Hashem July 31, 2019 I think you overanalysed the art of overanalysing movies. Reply McNugget August 1, 2019 i join art competitions often and almost always i have to create meanings for my photography so that judges can even see my art.ive won awards more off my skill to spew bullshit to old people instead of actually taking a game changing photo. Reply AD HB August 1, 2019 Wow awesome video man great fucking points Reply Blackevilmisanthrope August 2, 2019 Another thinly veiled advertisement. Reply Phil B August 2, 2019 That one book "The Poop That Took a Pee." Certain people try to find a deeper meaning Reply Rick sanCH August 4, 2019 Willem James Dafoe. Not William. Reply Galacticboy2009 August 4, 2019 That "William Dafoe" at 2:01 was pretty jarring xD But it's all good man, anyone could make that mistake. Reply Jacko Ringo August 4, 2019 Woah hold on. If meaning is objective then the author (or anybody) can't be an absolute authority on the meaning, because then meaning would be arbitrary. The meaning being objective means it's open for discussion/discovery. Reply slumbers August 4, 2019 in my opinion, intent doesnt matter. meaning is there whether you wanted to put it there or not Reply Epicvampire800 August 5, 2019 Unlike real life we're not allowed to look wherever we want in a movie, what we see was put there by a person so to we yearn for it to have some special meaning because we look for patterns in everything. Or maybe we just like feeling smart. Reply Claire Carter August 5, 2019 The way I see it the author and the audience are both subject to the same forces. We all come from a particular society with a particular culture which we have a particular relationship with which will in turn shape our ultimate worldview. Our own worldview will shape how we read a piece as well as how it's made. Objectivity is impossible and I find the pretense of objectivity to be insufferable and dishonest; our subjective personal universe will always shape our understanding of any text. Sometimes I'm arguing with the english teacher about the curtains, and sometimes I see a story about trauma and running from reality where the author just wanted to spook us a bit. It all depends on how you see the world. Reply i August 5, 2019 someone needs to tell this to aqa gcse english literature Reply Mr.PianoMan August 5, 2019 Analysing and speculation is really great, especially if it's an ongoing TV series or will have multiple movies in the future. It just keeps the audience forever on edge and keeps people talking about what they think will happen or how something will happen. Therefore, I think even though analysing can become quite far fetched or simply over the top, it's still a great thing and everyone's point is still valid if backed up of course. Reply Brian Griffin August 5, 2019 Room 237 is so ridiculous it's funny. Reply Samuel Helgert August 6, 2019 Never heard of "death of the author"? Reply Buffy8Fan August 6, 2019 Analyzing or over-analyzing isn't about right or wrong, but about theorizing. Reply Tomderstorm 44 August 6, 2019 “The problem isn’t that its not what the artist meant, the problem may be that the teacher got so caught up in analysis that they missed what made the book so great in the first place” Reply Marilena Winter August 7, 2019 6:50 are they in a Target bathroom 😂 Reply PcP Films August 7, 2019 You just got a dislike by calling him WillIam Dafoe. Reply Laiyam Baennotte August 9, 2019 Tolkien loathed allegory, as opposed to metaphor, which he was in favor of Reply Lu August 9, 2019 Maybe if you understand something behind the choice of blue curtains it is because you're film is art and so, he is interpreted like every others forms of art. Don't see "over"analyzing like a bad thing, you'll be grateful of yourself. Reply SecularDogma August 9, 2019 "Toxic masculinity". What a massive faggot Reply Derek the half a bee August 11, 2019 Analysis of 'Kong is an allegory for slavery analysis'. Fitting with the times, that some people see Kong as an allegory for slavery, makes sense. A common racist trend is to liken black people with apes, so naturally that racist association would extend to film analysis. It is understandable that self important film students would see white people fleeing from a 50' ape and come to the obvious conclusion, Kong must represent a black man, because that is what any thoughtful analytical film critic would think upon seeing people fleeing from a giant ape. Clearly, they are not running from certain death, they are running from their own racist fear. This leads them to write thinkpieces and thoughtful analysis on the subject. On the surface, one might think that an analysis that uses a racist trope as the basis for an analytical conclusion is, in fact, racist. On the surface, that is true. But the authors hide a deeper meaning in their writing. What you don't know is that 'Kong is an Allegory for racism' is really an allegory for 'using racist tropes in self-important movie analysis to mask your own racism'. The authors are actually putting their own racist associations on display in order to draw attention the dangers of attributing meaning to the works of others based on your own internal bias. Or to distill it further, it is essentially a critique of those who overanalyze movies and books. Brilliant really. Reply FlakeTillman August 11, 2019 If artists can put things in subconsciously maybe the blue curtains DID reflect the characters depression unbeknownst to the author! Reply Davey Blue Eyes August 11, 2019 If you want to hear people over-analyze a movie go to a film festival. They will even analyze the fn popcorn saying it's repetitive of the fall of the human spirit in today's over analyzed world. Reply ZodiacProd August 11, 2019 Decisions made when filming are always of a practical nature and almost never with some nefarious deeper meaning in-bedded in whats shown on screen.. its the same with art work. critics will extrapolate reasons that never existed. its like..the symbolism within the red clouds you painted is so profound.. why did you do it? I ran out of blue paint.. Reply udayn82 August 12, 2019 I over analysed this video and subconscious trying to get a deeper meaning of me wasting ten minutes to get a metafor and convincing that there is meaningful to this video…. gosh Reply don camillo August 12, 2019 Its Willem. Reply count69 August 12, 2019 0:11 But the teacher is right, maybe not in the final analysis but by looking for something. Much like movie making there is little point showing/mentioning something unless it has some relevance. If you were making a movie, and the set dresser used blue curtains because they were the first ones on the shelf in the prop room, or they chose them because they matched the couch, then yes you could be over analysing the curtains. If the director just wants a furnished room to film in and couldn't care less if they were red, blue or pink curtains yes you are over analysing. BUT, if the director breaks from showing the characters in dialogue and shows a close up of the blue curtains, then you need to be asking yourself why… what is important with the curtains…? Is it the colour? Does it reflect his blue mood? As an author of written word only, there is no need to dress the set. The characters are in the room about to talk, yes give a quick description to set the scene, but if you mention the colour it has to have significance. Same as if you are writing a script, and you mention the colour of the curtains, it must have significance, otherwise set dressing would be simply 'curtains'. If set dressing says 'blue curtains', it suggests we the audience should be aware of that, so we may get a shot to focus on that. Reply MindGem August 13, 2019 Sure you can overanalys things but when the author says "the curtains are blue, for no other reason than blue" he means that but at the same time the analysis of that is that we as the viewer subcontiously know that blue is associated with cold, depression, power and so on. So…more like. both are right. I'm a painter and I can paint something without any deep thoughts behind it but oboy do I get to hear a lot of theories why that color was there or what it all means. Reply Colin Prindle August 13, 2019 Art is something greater then the sum of it’s parts. We can thank our interpretations for making it something more than dialogue Reply Fried Mule August 14, 2019 LOL this is a true story: A teacher had asked the students to analyze a text as homework.Many students had analyzed the text as the teacher would and got great marks, other less so, one particular student had nearly wrote nothing and said that it was just a story not much more and he failed totally. Until the next day he took his father to the class, the father had helped his son write that analyze, oh and yes, the father was the original author of that text! 🙂 Reply Dennis Ellerkamp August 14, 2019 Just coming from your opening shot video, I couldn't help but laugh when I saw the title of this video since that video was pretty much the definition of over-analyzing a movie. Literally everyone (yes, literally literally) is hypocritical in a way so not trying to bash on you, just found it a funny coincidence 🙂 Reply mayder 40 August 14, 2019 Lots to digest. Effective analysis in most fields so often depends on the bigger and longer picture. Does someone get a rep as a liar if he tells one lie? Does one warm winter mean climate change? Analysis holds up better if one can point to numerous details that contribute to an idea. What does one do with one solitary detail? skip it./// A better English teacher teaches the junglings how he/she came to that conclusion? I know the curtain was not used here as a serious example but there are teachers who still need to work on their symbols btw. The slang adj blue means sad in English, but the color does not. In French, Italian and German, bleu, azurro and blau do not mean sad. Who says an author can't be clumsy with his/her symbols? Usually his work doesn't last that long. as for director's assertions, we think we know ourselves. We all make claims about our habits and personalities that make the people who know us say, "huh, Are you kidding?" We don't even know the impressions we make till others who live with us or work with us tell us, and then we deny or agree. Reply mayder 40 August 14, 2019 I just can't shut up. If a director seriously air brushed his image, that's not worthy of serious movie analysis unless it's a surreal comedy. That would have to be enjoyed with bloopers, end credit music, fun facts about the filming and behind-the-scene gossip. Reply Amalokch August 14, 2019 Darren Aronofsky looks a lot like Steve Jobs Reply SovietMcDonalds August 14, 2019 Thank god for this video Reply Jane Baker August 15, 2019 Film: Introduces a character who is eatingMe: 'oh he's hungry or greedy'My English teacher: 'this character has a vast emptiness inside him that needs to be filled' Reply Chris Anthony August 15, 2019 Even if an artist doesn't know exactly why they chose all the elements of their creation, there is still a reason and meaning for each one of their choices. Even attempts at randomness can be subverted by the subconscious. A lot of the creative process is emotional and intuitive, like a blitz chess game, and when you try to analyze your own work, it feels like analyzing a dream. There's a definite hidden meaning underlying the main message, and you definitely came up with it on your own, but it still takes a while to realize what the deeper meaning is. Reply Joshua Letzgig August 15, 2019 It’s Willem bro. Come on🤦♀️ Reply gdob9099 August 19, 2019 The intro is now my screen saver on my TV, computer and my ipad Reply comments compilation August 19, 2019 Even though many are against over analyzing stuff and that the artist himself said there is nothing to interpret there as he just put it there without any thought, there is a thing called sub-conscious mind that does give you those "just put it there" kind of ideas based on past experiences, what feeling a color invokes, tales of long lost time etc. In other words author choosing to specify blue might have something to do with sadness of the character even though the author himself doesn't acknowledge it but his subconscious mind made that call and people might want to see that exact thing when they over analyze those stuff. Reply Name Required August 19, 2019 Lol for the beginning text, especially since my favorite color is blue Reply TheWatchernator August 19, 2019 Please do modern art. Reply Daniel Rosa August 19, 2019 I recommend to any human being not to ask "What was the reason", but instead "What is the fruit" (effect/result). Life gets better. Reply Dallybear5k August 21, 2019 I heard a musician state that once you release something to the public it is no longer yours. It takes on a life of its own and can take on a different meaning based on who interprets it Reply Dark Thunder August 22, 2019 You do not know how much the first thirteen seconds ment to me Reply Foolock August 22, 2019 3:13 Reply Sanghoon Lee August 23, 2019 Beware a love of apparent profundity. Reply Alexander Thompson August 23, 2019 Mother is the least subtle film ever made. It's blunt and stupid. Reply Steve Seguin August 25, 2019 I enjoy when analysis is followed up with facts, rather than personal interpretation being presented as fact. I do see it a lot with these movie analysis channels, but some will present their opinion as an argument, rather than an outright statement. An argument needs Claims, Reasoning, and Evidence. Reply Knowbrains August 26, 2019 A quote from the Big Chill – Sam: What's this? Nick: I'm not sure. Sam: What's it … Like what? Nick: You're so analytical. Sometimes you have to let art… flow … over you … Reply Paintnamer August 27, 2019 I want to know about how electric fans are placed for effect, some seemingly quasi subliminal. Reply Ryan Daniels August 27, 2019 Could the same not be said about poetry and playwriting? I always felt as though Shakespeare was overanalyzed. I'm not sure the man himself would pass a high school exam on Shakespearean literature Reply Tore Lund August 29, 2019 I always thought that the ambiguity in William Dafoe's character is interrogation technique, to probe him and not to trick the audience. Reply Multi Stuff August 29, 2019 OH NO HE'S BECOME SELF AWARE Reply Harrison Kane August 29, 2019 When I was in secondary school studying English literature we spent literally two weeks over analysing the "fog" outside of the house and what it means and one girl actually got so sick she emailed Susan hill, the author and asked her exactly what she meant.Her reply: "it's literally just fog" Reply Arch Malagant Maraggun August 31, 2019 So Batman was in a movie with the green goblin once? Reply Hearthcore September 6, 2019 I like the idea that with analyse, you can recreate the original object with your own ideas. That way both the creation and its interpretation by the author and the interpretation of any viewer are valid. Reply Cutie Fly September 6, 2019 Man, one of my mums friends thought a painting I did was about sexual abuse but uh, no. Very no. I had to have an extremely awkward converstaion with my mum about it. I'm glad they both cared enough to talk to me but… yea. Made me a little nervous to draw naked women for a while. Reply El Catrin C September 8, 2019 they are trying to see thing that arent there Reply Daniel Clark September 9, 2019 My Humanities professor said that when it comes to art, everything the artist does is intentional. Every word choice, every bit of information passed to the reader or viewer, everything. As someone who writes, I can assure you that isn't the case. Most of the time, descriptions are completely arbitrary and characters do things because it pushes the plot forward. Reply cubeincubes September 10, 2019 That music in the background is very distracting, I wonder if that has meaning? Reply joel beck September 11, 2019 Could you maybe say Spoiler before you spoil?! …please?:) Reply Nick September 13, 2019 The overall Subtext/meta narrative of "Mother!" is obvious to anyone who knows Aronofsky's prior work or has a good understanding of History. Reply pato perez September 14, 2019 Great fucking video Reply Hermetic Dragon September 14, 2019 "The true measure of a great supernatural thriller isn't in its hidden meaning but in if the audience had a good fright, believed the film they were watching and retained some sense of it." KUBRICK Reply Crocoshark September 16, 2019 Regardless of intent, the parallel between King Kong and the slave trade pointed out in Inglorious Bastards is still there. It's not the meaning of the film, but it's there. Reply MrKyel17 September 17, 2019 I see even in this part of YouTube we can't escape from mentions of "toxic men" and "whites are racist". Good shit. Reply Add a Comment Cancel reply Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *Comment:*Name:* Email Address:* Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment.